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Who is the "ideal slave"?

  • 24. februára 2006 8:43:31 CET
    To be given completely and without hesitation to a Lady, is not an easy job. I would be bord if a slave always need punishment and i would be bored if i have to remind him how do i like my coffee. Nothing should be done without my permission and nothing i would tell should not be accepted. Am i asking too much? I think not. Besides he offered to serve me!
  • 15. marca 2006 15:23:18 CET
    Please forgive us MISTRESS SARIANA, we slaves did not intend ti turn this discussion upside and we bow before you if we so much as angered you
  • 15. marca 2006 14:44:59 CET
    I HAVE READ ALL DISCUSSION CAREFULLY. MUST TELL JUST SLAVES TURNED THE TOPIC UP SIDE DOWN LIKE THEY USED TO DO WHAT MEANS LOOSING THEIR VALUE FOR ME AS A DOMME. for Amazona:DOMMES SHOULD TO BE UNITED NOT TRYING TO PUT DOWN EACH OTHER MAYBE BY GOOD MEANING ADVICES! to the subs: BOW DOWN AND RESPECT WILL OF THE DOMMS.NOBODY EXPECT FROM U MORE THAN SERVICE.
  • 14. marca 2006 0:55:54 CET
    well... You are wrong, pupy. Maybe you didn't read my posts, but if i will be collared, then i will serve only one Mistress. And... to use the words of Mistress Jessicapower... i will server Her unconditional. Without even thinking about another Mistress. So... there are slaves, who serve only one Mistress. And i even believe, that the majority of true slaves (and not BDSM players) are serving just one Mistress.
    As i wrote already (between the lines): in my opinion You are not submissive nor a slave. At all... You don't understand the true meaning of a real BDSM relation. What i think is... that You are a perfect client for a Pro Domme. Coming, paying, and getting what you want. But this is NOT real BDSM
  • 14. marca 2006 0:53:12 CET
    Dear Mistress - even as i was taught that i shouldn't argue with a Mistress, i ask You for the permission to explain my point of view.
    i'm completely not lost, because i'm not playing. And... here i've to agree with You completely, i wish and i want (and i believe that soon i will be able) to serve a true Mistress. And then my love will belong to Her. UNCONDITIONAL
  • 13. marca 2006 20:43:46 CET
    Do you know any sub who serve only one Mistress
  • 13. marca 2006 17:22:24 CET
    Slaves, do you feel lost, are you searching for something and no matter how many Mistresses you have contacted and served, you still feel empty inside. Maybe you have to stop playing games. Maybe you should learn to true meaning of submission. It is a law of the universe that when you do something for someone you feel very happy the moment you accomplished the deed. Stop thinking about your fantasies and just serve a woman with unconditional love
  • 13. marca 2006 9:03:31 CET
    Thank You Mistress for this fantastic description. Look, how much i wrote before and now... i am just speechless
  • 13. marca 2006 7:23:04 CET
    A mutual need
    It is very interesting to talk to submissives who thing that they are the reason for a Dominant's existance. But in the same way if there are no Dommes, then you would be slaves to nobody. Of course I feel gratitude that slaves whorship me, and of course I Love my slaves and I know that my life would be empty without them. But they feel the same about me.

    Training techniques
    To Top from the bottom and to bottom from the Top, is an exchange that happens sometimes when a Mistress or Master accompanied with their slaves, deside to train another Master or Mistress, sub or slave. During the training the Top-bottom positions might be exchanged, but just for training purposes.

    A contract
    The purpose of a contract in a D/s - M/s relationship, is not just to acquire commitment. This contract is the way for both parties to deside their limits, their needs, the protocol, and of course the duration. Contracts make slaves feel safe, as they are protected from it and of course a slave is a human being and before desiding to offer himself, has the right to express wants, needs and has the right to protect himself. Officialy contracts are signed by both parties in the presence of a lawyer. But BOTH must agree to it and duly sign it, before a BDSM relationship commences.

    The gift of Domination
    I am a Dominant and want to own slaves. How can ever a slave trust me, If I am not able to control my passions, feelings and needs? I cannot Dominate If I am not self-controlled. I cannot Dominate, If I have not studied protocols. I cannot Dominate everyone who claims to be sumbissive, but only the one who offers his submission to me. I cannot Dominate If I have not studied issues about safety and health. Does it matter If I own a whip but I don't know how to use it?

    BDSM - hardcore porn or sensual mind game?
    What is supposed to be. To me, sensual. Respect one another, respect yourself. Always remember you are not obliged to do BDSM, but you need to do it. It must be something that gives satisfaction. It must be a way to fullfil your need to Dominate or to submit. Courtesy, dedication, respect, must be the feelings of a person involving with BDSM.
  • 12. marca 2006 22:21:54 CET
    Yes, HEELSLOVER, I agree about trust, the sub must feel safe and protected by his mistress, that she will not let REAL SERIOUS harm come to him ( I had a MISTRESS who became hooked on drugs and alchoal and I was terrified for my life) !
  • 12. marca 2006 21:10:11 CET
    i also agree with emby. It's an honor to serve a Mistress. But in the same moment i also believe and trust into Mistress, that She will never mis-use it.

    i think, that TRUST is the most importnant thing in such a relation. If the slave gives himself away totally, then he should be able to trust his Owner, that She will never misuse it and that all actions She is doing are only for the sake of the slave (even, if he eventually doesn't understand it in the beginning).
  • 12. marca 2006 20:02:03 CET
    PUPY, Honor is not an issue for a SUB, it is only serveritude to a MISTRESS, The honor is serving HER !!!!!

    wrong look at your experinces what you get and lost and ask it to your mistress
  • 12. marca 2006 19:31:34 CET
    PUPY, Honor is not an issue for a SUB, it is only serveritude to a MISTRESS, The honor is serving HER !!!!!
  • 12. marca 2006 18:49:04 CET
    My answer to pupy

    Firstly... it's very difficult to understand what you mean. But if i do understand your words correctly, then people like you are the reason, why Dommes don't believe a sub.
    Secondly... if i do understand your words, then... you didn't understand the meanoing of BDSM at all

    Answer To Heelslover

    There could be various reasons why people claim they are in D/s. But, the
    origin of true D/s is a far extended sharing to the deepest human boundary
    together reaching soul level.
    In human senses, there are many basic instincts serve as self-protection
    mechanisms layer by layer in heart, such as fears, panics, pains,
    shames........etc. They are strong instincts which human tries to avoid and
    run away with them. D/s, is an approach that the submissive party submiit
    even this basic instinct part to face and accept them to let the dominate
    part take layer by layer those self-protection mechanism off untill the
    thing protected and hidden beneath the deepest heart, the naked soul.
    total freedom = total obidence

    BUT NEVER LOSE YOUR HONOUR that is what doms hate just an advice

  • 12. marca 2006 2:21:08 CET
    Sorry emby, but in my opinion the BASIC pleasure of a slave is to satisfy his Mistress, to make Her smile. That should be for him the basic, but also the main pleasure and the biggest happines. All in one
  • 12. marca 2006 2:19:18 CET
    Firstly... it's very difficult to understand what you mean. But if i do understand your words correctly, then people like you are the reason, why Dommes don't believe a sub.
    Secondly... if i do understand your words, then... you didn't understand the meanoing of BDSM at all. Because what you are saying is the most anoying thing at all: to top from the bottom!
  • 12. marca 2006 2:15:47 CET
    Thank You Mistress for not getting mad
  • 12. marca 2006 2:13:24 CET
    Mistress - even as i know, that my opinion is not important, that my opinion is worthless... i want to give You some explanations. Especially as our first contact was interrupted due to this "stupid" contract.
    1./ i put a time limit into the contract just because of one reason. You, Mistress, are taking a bigger risk in signing a slave contract, because You are taking not only control over the slave (body, mind, soul), but it's also a BIG responsibility to take over control over a human (even if he is worthless).
    A limited period gives Mistress the chance to learn more about the slave.

    2./ Probably i know Your answer alreay, Mistress. Due to the contract a Mistress may cancel it anytime. Yes, this is correct. But please, take the following into consideration. If there is a special time limit, a border, etc. people tend to fulfill it. And often it happens, that situation might change completely, even if in an earlier moment it seemed to be impossible.

    And now smth completely different: i told You many times, that i am "other than others". i would never offer myself to more than one person. NEVER.

    Sending You the contract some months ago i just wanted to start smth like a discussion, eventually negotiations about different paragraphs. Sending You the contract didn't mean, that i already did offer myself to You totally. How could I, if we never did meet? Then my words would be really empty phrases.

    Last, but not least: even as i didn't offer myself to other Dommes (even before You did forbid it) i don't think, that it's a big mistake, if a real sub wants to meet also other Supreme Females. Of course, as long as he didn't sign a contract or gave Mistress his word. The reason is simple: if the slave REALLY wants to give himself away totally and even for live-long, then he should also have the possibility to make his choice (eventually by comparsion). Please, Mistress, don't forget... for a real slave this step is even more deciding than a marriage. Because a marriage can be divorced, a (lifetime) contract never solved by the slave.

    i hope Mistress, i could explain my worthless point of view. And even more i hope that You will not be angry that i argued a little. i just wanted that others could eventually take into consideration different point of views.
  • 12. marca 2006 1:15:37 CET
    my aspect

    It is very common for a Mistress to have more than one slaves to server her. Of course this doesn't happen when a 24/7 relationship with a contract exists, but when a slave chose to give away his services to a Lady.I know that submissives are so eager to serve, that they very often cheat their D/s partners. If my slave asked me to let him go with another Mistress, maybe I won't have any objection and give him my permission. But when a slave serves another Lady without me knowing it, I cannot be responsible for his health and safety and he cannot expect me to protect him against any harm another Mistress may cause him. Maybe the submissives should thing before giving themselves in cold blood, just to get a good spanking. Be very careful and very serious. BDSM is to give pleasure, but we all must take good care of ourselves.

    heelslover : you should't judge me, of course, since you are a wothless worm, but I am not mad at you.

    *SMASHIN* : you should remember that a Dominant person should Dominate himself, before attempting to Dominate others. Don't let yourself be exposed by sharing your feelings and anger with slaves. They don't worth it anyway

    Opinions

    Thanks Amazona for nice advice. I think I have pretty strong self control mainly comparing to these male bitches. due My opinions why dont be openminded? why we should to hide anger our our feelings? no need.we are strong enough to control ourselves, them and lead at the same time. thats great feeling when sub is in a fear under one angry look only. so once again I am curious how they will reply

    SUB DEDÝCATE HÝS ENERGY TO HÝS MÝSTRESS ,AFTER THEN HE CREATE HÝS MÝSTRESS.to be known subs create his mistress.if there is no sub around, cant be mistress.failing which if there is no sub around a person can talk about mistress.
    so about cheating whom create you can destroy you......find out answers ladies

  • 12. marca 2006 0:32:00 CET
    Thanks Amazona for nice advice. I think I have pretty strong self control mainly comparing to these male bitches. due My opinions why dont be openminded? why we should to hide anger our our feelings? no need.we are strong enough to control ourselves, them and lead at the same time. thats great feeling when sub is in a fear under one angry look only. so once again I am curious how they will reply
  • 11. marca 2006 22:29:57 CET
    It is very common for a Mistress to have more than one slaves to server her. Of course this doesn't happen when a 24/7 relationship with a contract exists, but when a slave chose to give away his services to a Lady.I know that submissives are so eager to serve, that they very often cheat their D/s partners. If my slave asked me to let him go with another Mistress, maybe I won't have any objection and give him my permission. But when a slave serves another Lady without me knowing it, I cannot be responsible for his health and safety and he cannot expect me to protect him against any harm another Mistress may cause him. Maybe the submissives should thing before giving themselves in cold blood, just to get a good spanking. Be very careful and very serious. BDSM is to give pleasure, but we all must take good care of ourselves.

    heelslover : you should't judge me, of course, since you are a wothless worm, but I am not mad at you.

    *SMASHIN* : you should remember that a Dominant person should Dominate himself, before attempting to Dominate others. Don't let yourself be exposed by sharing your feelings and anger with slaves. They don't worth it anyway!
  • 11. marca 2006 21:01:09 CET
    Then a MISTRESS denies her subject basic pleasure, such as "releaveing" his excitment. She just him a hint of the pleasure she has now DENIED him
  • 11. marca 2006 20:57:16 CET
    THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF THOSE CREATURES WOULDNT BEG FOR SERVICE UNDER ANOTHER DOMM.WHEN I ASKED IF THEY SUBMIT TO SOMEBODY ANSWER WAS NOT! THANKS GOD SOME OF DOMMES ARE FRIENDS AND USUALLY WE REALISE TRUE SOON.IN THAT CASE NO MERCY.WHAT WILL U REPLY NOW?
  • 11. marca 2006 20:18:22 CET
    MISTRESS SMASHIN, it is an inert weakness of the male animal to want to have a female notice him, thus they crave to have another MISTRESS admonish them, though they belong to someone else
  • xrs
    11. marca 2006 19:11:20 CET
    serve to Me.where is loyalty then? how can slave be so rude? to damage trust and love which is receiving? why? SLAVES GIVE ME AN ANSWER!
  • 11. marca 2006 19:09:01 CET
    #1 is essential.for sure noone is so stupid enter the same river twice! due your total submission and giving just once let Me ask! HOW MANY TIMES U WANT TO GIVE YOURSELF WHEN U PUT INTO THE SLAVE CONTRACT TIME BORDER FOR TIME PERIOD? HOW MANY MISTRESSES WILL GET SAME PRESENT? better would be ask slaves why do they are not loyal to their owners? I met here many slaves which had owners but wanted